The Therapist and the Coach
Veteran Master Coach Lerae and veteran Early Trauma Therapist Oren team up in "The Therapist and the Coach" podcast to dissect the often-confusing worlds of coaching and therapy. In this podcast, they delve into the tricky territory where helping becomes fixing, where goals can obscure pain, and where healing starts with being present. They unravel the unexpected commonalities between effective coaching and therapy, the crucial distinctions that protect those seeking guidance, and how to determine the right type of support when you're feeling lost, unfulfilled, or stuck in a cycle. If you're searching for genuine change, this conversation will challenge your preconceived notions and leave you wanting to hear more.
Episodes

May 31, 2026
May 31, 2026
43 min
Episode 23: The Courage to Be Genuine
In this episode, Lerae and Oren continue their exploration of needs, wants, values, and the deeper places within us that shape how we move through relationship, purpose, and the world. What begins as a reflection on the relationship they have built through the podcast becomes a living example of the very distinction they are exploring: the difference between performing connection and allowing something genuine to unfold.
Together, they speak about the quiet ease that becomes possible when relationship is rooted in care rather than expectation. They reflect on how needs, when unmet or unconscious, can drive us into performance, protection, and the attempt to be who we think others need us to be. And they begin to name the different energy that arises when we are living from values, desire, and purpose — not as something to prove, but as something clean, compelling, and deeply connected to the soul.
Lerae and Oren also open the conversation around the courage it takes to follow one’s own knowing before it is understood, approved of, or seen by others. They speak to the ways life offers us breadcrumbs, invitations, resistance, discomfort, and moments of awareness that can guide us back toward ourselves. Not as a single path or formula, but as an unfolding journey of becoming more able to listen inwardly, care for ourselves, and allow the parts of us that have been hidden or shamed to come forward safely.
At the heart of the episode is a tender reminder that genuine being often begins in the smallest human moments — a gesture of care, a willingness to be vulnerable, the courage to name what is real. And perhaps, as Lerae and Oren suggest, this is where the deeper work begins: not in trying harder to become someone, but in creating enough safety, honesty, and relationship to finally be who we already are.

Jul 1, 2026
Jul 1, 2026
38 min
Episode 24: Finding Quiet in a Noisy World
After a brief pause, Lerae and Oren return without a plan, allowing the conversation to begin exactly where they are. What emerges is a timely reflection on noise — not only the obvious noise of media, politics, social platforms, and the pace of the world, but the quieter noise of expectation, distraction, performance, and the constant pull to look outside ourselves for direction.
Together, they explore what it means to come back to ground when life feels unsettled and the world feels loud. Oren speaks to the importance of quieting the outer noise enough to hear the inner signal, while Lerae reflects on the many ways noise shows up in daily life — in our spaces, our screens, our “shoulds,” and even in the subtle pressure to be seen. Beneath it all is the invitation to trust, to allow, and to listen for what is true now.
This episode is not a conversation about withdrawing from the world. It is a reminder that connection to the outside is only meaningful when we have not lost connection to ourselves. Lerae and Oren offer simple, human ways back: asking what feels true today, noticing where we have adapted to noise without realizing it, creating small moments of quiet, and releasing the judgment that says we should already be somewhere else.
At its heart, this conversation is a gentle place to land. A reminder that every moment offers a doorway back home. Not through striving, fixing, or finding the perfect answer, but through one conscious choice, one honest question, one breath of stillness, and the willingness to listen inwardly again.







